got this error trying to rip a station

> We can't give you permission to copy copyrighted works that aren't ours. Why is that so so hard to understand?

You don't have to give us permission, the law already does (Fair Use).  Don't like it, I suggest you try to get the law changed.

Uhh.. riiight.  Sharing music you don't own = bad.  Recording a stream is protected under fair use.  They are two different things.  Mass distributing songs is not the debate.  Our right to record, for personal use, media, IS. I can record TV and Radio and it's LEGAL.

Part of the problem here is that the music industry has so demonized MP3 and the publics use of it that everyone thinks EVERYTHING is illegal, unless you buy it from the industry.  There's always been a balance between the public interest and the intellectual property right owner.  The deal we currently have is Fair Use, and allows us certain rights.  We are exercising them with stream rippers.  If someone stream rips and then shares the music via a P2P network, then yeah, that's not right, as it's not for their use and is no longer protected behavior.   But recording music for your own use IS.

DJKiller wrote: Hello, im DJ Killer from Killer Rock Radio. I also ban and deal with rippers on a daily basis. Its just not right. We fight enough to stay online and you try and give us a by ripping our stations and giving the RIAA one more god damn thing to bitch about with online webscasting... i have two words for stream rippers... f**k OFF!

You and all the other station people who ban people who record internet radio are freakin idiots, that's not opinion, but fact. I'll prove it, while its your right to your opinion to not like rippers, all of you're treating it like stealing or something, ITS NOT!! Its no different from recording radio from your car or stereo which is protected by law. Also, ripping doesn't put any excess load on your bandwidth, nor does it push up the price of the music your broadcasting. In fact it seems all of you are just a bunch of filelr in this world who don't take the time to think.

If you broadcast it, we will rip it! If you try to stop us, we will find ways around it! That's the way it usually goes when you try to micromanage people's behavior. Maybe those of you that complain about it, and organizations like RIAA, should take a good look at why the music industry has been losing money. Could it be that most of what the mainstream media puts out is garbage? Maybe they should get their heads out of their “American Idol” asses and encourage more creativity, and then everyone might make more money.